An Interview with Dr. Louie Enos D.V.M. (complete article)

By Christina Zohs
Recently I had the opportunity to accompany Louie Enos on a day trip to Enumclaw where he treated two horses. To say that I was truly impressed and in awe with what he did that day is putting it mildly. The two horses that he treated were in poor condition, but at the end of their treatments they were both obviously on the road to recovery. The horse who couldn’t eat properly and was limping and in a lot of discomfort, after the treatment he was chowing down and walking with ease, and Momma horse who beforehand couldn’t run at all, afterwards ran with a spring in her step into her field with her baby alongside her. Astonishing stuff!

GT: Louie, you have a very unique and successful veterinary practice where you primarily deal with Equine Manipulation Through Mind, but before we talk about that, could you tell us a little about your background and how you first became interested in helping animals.

LOUIE: To begin with, my life has always been consumed with animals because my family ranched and my Dad had horses. I was always on a farm or in a rural setting throughout my life, and as I grew older I had a horse of two of my own. But it was in high school when the sciences captured my attention and stimulated me that I knew I wanted to go to college and go into the animal field somewhere, but I hadn’t quite decided on being a doctor yet. However, I knew by association – by having my horses and animals doctored by veterinarians – that I liked what I saw and liked being around a veterinarian.

It was later on in college with the sciences – anatomy, physiology – that I became so excited and that really put me on the track to becoming a doctor – a veterinarian – but there were a lot of things that occurred through the journey to get me to finally accomplish that. I had to go into the Service and when I got out I applied to Veterinary School. I got accepted at the University of Davis, California, and I paid my way through Undergraduate – which was at Cal Poly San Louis Obispo – by training horses, horseshoeing, and I ran a horse ranch. I also acquired my Bachelor of Science degree there. So my background, obviously, was very horsey.

My time at the University of Davis was exceptional because I was able to specialize there so I then knew I wanted to be a horse veterinarian, an Equine Veterinarian more specifically. I worked for the Equine Surgery Department while I was at Davis, which allowed me to have something similar to an internship. So I specialized and spent extra time in the surgery department and I qualified my self to a level that would be compared to an internship after you leave college.

Upon graduating in 1977 I moved here to Washington State because I had some offers in Eastern Washington, which looked appealing. They very much needed qualified equine doctors because they had a lot of horses but not many qualified horse doctors, so it was really great for me. My practice took off and in three years I had built a surgery clinic. Again, that was my love at that time and I wanted to be the best surgeon there was. I had a full surgery practice, large surgical table, anesthesia, lay-up, and I was doing major surgeries, that would normally be done at a university. I was doing some on-the-edge surgeries, arthroscopic surgery, which is surgery with instrumentation that they weren’t doing in Washington yet, but I was doing it on horses. So I was very progressive, I was very hungry to know, I put in a lot of hours, and I was very successful.

But I had reached a point in my life where I had put out a lot of expense and I then created debt. Even though I was successful in my practices – I had a large practice, nice family, nice home – I was very unhappy and I knew I needed to make some changes. I came to a point where I said that I must leave this, so I walked away from my family, and my practice, took what money I had – but kept the responsibility, and I moved to Western Washington to start over again. So I started my practice again, and I started to find out who I was by being myself a little more. I calmed down.

About a year after I came here I was introduced to the teachings of Ramtha. That was the true changer and awakening for me that began to put me on the path that I am on at Ramtha’s School of Enlightenment (RSE), and also in the direction of my work that I am now doing. The teachings began to make me realize why I’m here, what life is about, why I’m miserable, why I’m unhappy, and what I can do about it. Ramtha is so superb about teaching us and taking us on that journey to overcome.

So I continued my work but began to fall into a similar kind of scenario where I had a good practice, thought it was going to go big again, and then I was at a place where I wasn’t happy again. Even though I had learned at RSE what that was all about, I was still setting up the same old pattern. It came to a point where I fell into debt again and I was not fulfilled, except for RSE where I was excited to go to an event whenever I could. The thing that it finally came down to was that I knew that I was really seeking a relationship, because I wanted some permanence in my life. I had been through so many relationships with women beforehand but I wasn’t happy with that because I never could have just one.

I finally reached a point in the school where I was asking the big questions: why can’t I love myself? Why can’t I have one woman to love? Then at one particular Assay shortly after that, I got together with my present wife, Michelle. What was great about that – I had met her two years before – was that it gave me an opportunity to stop my practice again, because I knew it was done. So I stopped and I spent some time with Michelle and I started to get to really know her and to know me.

After a while, I decided to go back and practice my traditional medicine again. But even though I love my work, it just wasn’t fulfilling anymore. It felt like drudgery. I went with that for a short period but then I began to ask questions about what I was going to do and what I wanted to do, and I focused on that through what I had learned with the teachings of Ramtha.

Shortly thereafter, I ran into an old client of mine who spoke to me about a problem that she had with her horse. Nobody could solve this problem and help this horse. She described the horse and the problems to me and I knew immediately what was wrong with it and she asked me to come and check her horse out. The horse had what we call a stifle problem – that’s comparable to our knee in the hind leg – but they really couldn’t find out why it had this problem. They couldn’t find disease and so they couldn’t diagnose because they couldn’t see an organic reason for it. But I knew that by the description my client gave me that it was from the pelvis.

What I’m leading to here is the understanding of my own body. My own body had suffered nerve and spine problems, but I was not a believer in alternative medicine. However, when I decided to go to my first chiropractor, the process of him working on me and my becoming well in six months to a year was amazing. What he did for me made me accept that this could possibly work on a horse. So I started to dabble in soft tissue work, spine work, moving the spine around, doing little things that I thought might work.

So to get back to the horse with the stifle problem. I went out and saw the horse and I knew immediately it was what I thought it was; the pelvis. It was low back and neck problems and all the other problems through the spine, but the pelvic low back was the reason why the stifles were weak and why the horse couldn’t use his legs properly. The horse was very sore throughout and had a lot of attitude about his problems. Three treatments – and I didn’t know then all that I know now – and the horse was becoming rideable. She hadn’t ridden the horse in a year. So this was very inspiring as well as stimulating. This was real. This was exciting. Then I had another horse that couldn’t trot and gallop for two years, and after one treatment the horse was galloping. And that was my beginning.

Anyhow, the client whose horse had the stifle problem had a horse in California in training that she wanted me to see. So she flew me down there and in the midst of doing the treatment on that horse, people saw my work, I began to get more clients, and I became more adept, more capable, qualified, and proficient at what I was doing. So I continued to focus on what I wanted to do with this work, and because of what Ramtha was teaching me and the understanding of what I was learning, my work evolved very quickly. My hands did things I didn’t understand, but when I reviewed what I had done, I understood that I went analogical, then I’d have to pull back to understand what I did, and from there I would evolve it. So my practice started me going down to California to see this one horse and then people heard of me in other places and now it’s at least a ten-State trek of practice.

GT: How do you actually adjust these horses?

LOUIE: Well, as I said before, I began to extrapolate from experiencing a chiropractor working on my and I then asked myself, if a horse had this problem what would I do to accomplish that type of healing on a horse. So I began to associate myself with pelvic problems and knee problems to stifle problems in a horse. I knew that the doctor manipulated my pelvis and lifted my leg into certain positions and so I began to slowly and methodically go through natural movement lifting the leg of the horse and also applying pressure through the back gently like the doctor would do on me. I would try to get a feel and relief, and because I was real careful, things began to get relief and things began to happen quickly. The spine would begin to move. Sometimes you would get noises of adjustment – but it’s not about noises – and the horse would show immediate relief. I began to lift and move the hind leg into different positions, which of course effects the pelvis and I began to understand more in the process of movement and being focused analogically. I just knew to lift the leg and do certain moves. Then when I saw that change affect the horse I began to contemplate and go further, and then my arms and my thought process would take me to a position where I am literally successfully adjusting a horse.

Also, what I began o associate was how a horse’s attitude and emotional state is very similar to our own and of mine. How I had anger and how I had frustration was locked in my brain and in my body, and at the same time that related to my nervous system. I hurt my back and I have an attitude about it, and I have an emotional reaction, so I utilized the teachings of Ramtha about the brain and neurology and the emotional body. I was actually putting this together a little before Ramtha spoke about it, but then Ramtha gave the teachings and that just started to really put it together for me in myself, and then I took that right to the horse.

I was beginning to see an immediate emotional chemical reaction – their fears, their insecurities, their depressions, their lack the same way we have – that hooks up to a neuronet as we know now hooks neurologically in a memory situation. I associated that with the pain in their nervous system that was locked in their soft tissue, locked in their muscle, locked in their movement that created fear and anxiety. So that was particularly exciting because then I began to understand that healing was not about a mass to mass concept, it was not moving spine around, it was not moving soft tissue around; but that it was a window to the brain.

I was starting to understand that the body was a window to the feeling sensation and experiences that the brain had thought of, or went through, or the individual had created in the brain, and then the body experienced it. But the body gets locked in the experience so the emotional state of experience of emotions, the feeling, never really gets resolved. The memory of the past relationship association of experience is not resolved in the brain so it’s not resolved in the body. It’s again, the mind/body concept.

In the process of over twelve years doing this work, I have taken all the knowledge that we gain in the school and I have changed myself and then transferred it all right to a horse and then I realized that their emotional body is our emotional body. Horses don’t have the ability to reason like we do, because they have only one band (explain). They have an emotional body that is very similar to ours, but their cerebral cortex is smaller because they are a flight animal and they work off of their senses. They do have intuitiveness, but they work off InfraRed so they will reason very briefly, but it’s more like a computer where the information is there and then they respond. So I began to realize quickly that all behavior in horses was related to the emotion, and emotion was related to past trauma experiences that they couldn’t analyze, reason, or contemplate out of.

I don’t call myself a chiropractor because my concepts really have evolved beyond that. Chiropractic in the general world of horses right now is very limited. They are taking the mass-to-mass concept, which gives some relief, but that really doesn’t stabilize or give the horse true healing. I have developed my own unique method over time. The process is a slow methodical manipulation of pressure and movement. I use the horse’s natural movement, leverage, and body strength to adjust body parts or parts of the spine. I act as what I call the director, using natural biomechanics and directing using their strength and muscles attached to the vertebrae or wherever I am working, to get the effect of the adjustment.

So it is a manipulation, but I first walk them through their emotions, which is something we have all had to do at RSE. We must walk through our emotional body. We can’t avoid it. We must face it, understand it, erase it, and change it. At the same time you do that you are going to effect your body, and if you’re fortunate, you will have a manipulation or something happen in your body that will help heal your body and work the attitudes at the same time. A horse’s behavior, its personality, like with us is the past emotional experiences, the past memory, or trauma. They can be just like us stuck mentally as a two-year-old, stuck as a baby, because of trauma incidences through their life or through humanity interacting with them. And their biggest problem is us.

GT: Through mistreatment?

LOUIE: Misuse, but also because there’s a lot of ignorance about the language that a horse speaks. Ignorance about what they really are saying which is many times interpreted as them being a difficult horse or a silly horse or a horse that needs more training. It’s not about training. Most of the time its is about a horse’s fear of pain and suffering in their body that they are trying to avoid just like we would. That is interpreted that the horse’s training has to be more aggressive, and that, many time through ignorance and sometimes purposeful intent on the part of the horse person, creates trauma. They hurt them because they want to force things. A lot of the "healing" is not occurring in horses because it’s all about forcing and it’s chemical. Treating symptoms through chemicals or surgery is purposeful but it doesn’t really create the neuronet change. It doesn’t really create the emotional change that needs to occur.

As we have learned at RSE, true healing is changing the attitude, because attitude is everything. The attitude is a neuronet and the emotional body is hooked up in a memory state. If the attitude isn’t dealt with, then I have horses that come to me that are ten, twelve, twenty years old, and they act like two-year-olds. They haven’t had a chance to resolve the emotional memory trauma in the brain that also is emotional trauma in the body.

GT: And the process that you have created to heal the horses is unique in the world?

LOUIE: Yes, what I do has not been duplicated anywhere in the world, and what I do is simply understanding a horse. What are they saying? What’s the language? What’s the emotion? How do we even correct a spine without trying to force it? And how do I do that in a way that creates minimal trauma to the body and also in a way that the horse can accept?

GT: How do you get a horse to walk through an emotional trauma?

LOUIE: in the process of me treating a horse, as you have seen, a horse’s fear or reaction will come up immediately when you touch a part of their body that hurts. They will have a reaction immediately, which is the memory and the past. So I must then literally walk them through by applying my focus without being emotional. If I’m emotional, so are they and then we go nowhere. I must be the center of the magnet. I must be the focal point to create reality – quantum physics – taking all the energy with knowingness to consciously create where the horse needs to go. The horse doesn’t know at that time because he is caught in pain and an emotional storm.

So I allow him to literally show his emotion, and within moments I will sustain him in that moment of fear, whether it’s a little bit or a lot. As long as I stay focused and don’t press him too far and allow him to still remain conscious – there are no words to really explain this except through experience – and he doesn’t get emotional and lose it because then I might react to that. It’s about allowing the emotion to come up and allowing their consciousness to still stay with me or I stay with them. I take their emotion, expression, and momentarily just stick with them. Then using the concept of quantum physics and consciousness creating reality, I sustain the hologram in my brain of what I want, then they surrender and start to relax because they now begin to understand.

As long as I’m not too intrusive and as long as I’m a center of focus for them, as soon as I do that and as soon as they relieve their emotion, they begin to relax into the motion position and then I go into a correction.

Basically I want them to really correct themselves so then the neuronet is created of acceptance with movement and relief. The moment after the adjustment is as important as everything I do, because that time can allow them the moment to understand. So I step back and allow them a pause and they must mentally process in their brain the information coming back from the body, to the neuronet, to the consciousness of what has happened to them.

They have to understand, "Is this helping me? Is this relief? Is this guy hurting me again? Is this one of those guys that I used to have to run a way from?" It’s not an analyzing, but these thought processes occur in the brain because it’s like a computer trying to compute all the information coming from the body and then asking, "What happened?" In the midst of that, because I know that I have created relief emotionally, chemically, soft tissue, structurally, and in the nervous system – the brain understands that, they understand it – then the horse begins to relax or chew; acceptance. It’s a response in the brain pleasure center because the energy rushes and hits the pineal gland. They may also tend to yawn because of how the process affects the brain, the pineal, and then changes the seratonin to melatonin. They may also tend to stretch. They may go into a trance; trance meaning, they go into mid-brain and look straight away because they are having a whole dynamics in brain frequency change. When they do that and they come back and look at me, they have accepted the healing and they have accepted my work. When they do that, then I’ll go deeper in the process through the spine, through their neck, through their back, through their pelvis, repeatedly in different large and small moves.

They allow me and work with me more because they know that I’m there to create relief and to take away their pain. They deal with their emotion differently and give it up to go further in relief or what is called letting go.

Now I must still be the director all the way along because as I go deeper into the memory bank of the tissue, and pain and the memories start coming up, they can show much more emotion – meaning aggression, anger, fight/flight – and they can kick and bite. Some horses I work on are really neurotics, They are psychotics. They have acquired deranged mental processes. They are attention deficit children. I know that what I know about this can and will effect attention deficit children because I have worked with that state of mind.

A horse, in their emotional state, like people, can’t focus so they can’t learn. When you can’t focus and you have an emotional state going on in the body and the brain, you or the horse is literally unconscious. That’s why people get hurt with horses because the horse gets in that emotional state and wants to get away, but people thing that they are going to dominate or overpower them or work on them using their body. You then put yourself in a compromised position because you are emotional and can’t rationalize that the horse is more powerful, and if he wants to get away, then you are not going to dominate him. They are too strong. And if they have enough pain and aggression, they can hurt you. I understand this because I have gone through that in my own life as well.

The thing I want to say here is that in the midst of the horses’ accepting my work – which you had an opportunity to see when you came out that and watched me work – these horses will do many things with their expressions. When they understand a relief, their eyes change, their expression changes, their head drops. One thing that is most incredible that they do, which people don’t many times know that horses do, is they allow tears to come forth. The tear effect is just like it is with us. It’s a crying effect but is a lack of emotion as we have been taught by Ramtha. When you go into a depression or you relive emotion or you are crying, you are going into a state of non-emotion. The body is weeping because it’s not getting emotion, so it’s a relief. Therefore, horses do this too as a relief occurs, and they’ll flood their eyes with water. It’s very touching to see.

GT: Yes, it really was very touching and sweet to see. So what types of horses have you mainly worked on?

LOUIE: Well, I have worked with thousands of the most vicious horses that would have normally been put to sleep. They were dead horses because they had nowhere to go. I have worked on horses of all levels, young, old, all breeds, all types, not only the worst cases, but a lot of times I do get these cases. These horses that are most violent and dangerous – some of them are so dangerous a trainer won’t even handle them – I will do my manipulation process and they will be changed mentally, physically, and significantly by the end of the treatment.

But I have to really walk on the edge with them because it takes quite a fearlessness, to a certain degree, but also a focused non-emotional place to help them through that fear so they know that there is another side to the chemistry, that there is relief, and that there is lack of pain now even though they have been suffering in the past. It is important to note that I also work on many horse that aren’t advanced in their problems and they do respond more mildly.

GT: I observed that when you allowed the horse a "pause" after an adjustment it gently approaches you as a child would with its parent.

LOUIE: Yes, another thing that horses do many times when they experience relief, besides have the tear effect, etc., is that they will step toward me, pause, and take their head and put it right in my hand. They will put their nose in each hand and they will nudge and say – in a language that I’m now understanding more – "Do it, do more. I like it." These horses are phenomenal in their expression. It’s just understanding what they are saying.

What’s also incredible here is that the horse’s emotional state is the owner’s and the trainer’s emotional state. Horses are a receiver and they are trying to serve us, so we imprint our anger, our aggressions, our emotions, and what we don’t even think we have and is going on in our bands in Infra Red, they are picking up that as well. So when I get my hands on a horse, I know that owner. How a horse reacts with me will tell me, yes, this horse go hurt, this horse was beaten, this horse had an accident. All this information starts coming up to give background on what happened to the horse. It might also call the owner on their issues because they were the ones that may have initiated the problem. They may be ignorant to themselves about their emotional reactions, but they have imprinted exactly those on the horse. The owner is going to do what they want to do and they expect the horse should do what they want it to do, and literally – at times – it’s "to hell with the horse, I’m going to fulfill my own altered ego."

So that’s the concept that horses have become for many people and where we have gone with them. In the midst of domestication, there is really commonly abuse that occurs. Whether it’s an upper level hors or the backyard horse, there is this humanity that plays out that is so damaging, not just to humanity, but of course, to animals. Whether it’s a small animal or a horse, the animal becomes emotionally disturbed, hurting, and the owner thinks that they can train it out of them or handle it with some other method or give them medication which only call or tones things down, but it never really heals or changes the animal.

GT: How many treatments normally would you give for the horse to be healed?

LOUIE: It sometimes takes many treatments because what I do is very progressive. I go deeper with each session, spend an hour and a half to two hours which they don’t usually do in any chiropractic work in the country; they may spend twenty to thirty minutes, commonly. I do follow-ups every three to four weeks to allow the horse to heal and stabilize. They really do need time. This is something that is not well understood, again, because people want to use their horses right away and some of the concepts of chiropractic, or whatever they use, allow them to get on right away and they don’t really allow the horse time to heal and stabilize, so the horse neurologically and emotionally hasn’t had time to understand that their body has changed in movement.

I really emphasize and insist upon a period of time of rest and rehabilitation before I come back. I change the whole program and the owners must be willing, but not everybody is willing. I represent change in the horses health, but the owner must also change at some level, for example, with how they are using the horse at that moment and allow the healing, change the riding, maybe even look at their own spine which they sometimes start doing, or look at their own emotional state, which they do when they realize that they have been ignorant of themselves and what they have done to their horse. They’ll cry and weep but I know that they are being changed whether it’s a little bit or a lot, and I’m thankful that I’m even there. If they stick with me, people usually start to look at themselves more, which is the beauty of the work.

GT: Do you get upset at how some of these horses have been treated and, if so, how do you handle it?

LOUIE: In this work I do get to see if my buttons are pushed with people and the horses. If they are, I have to resolve that, particularly with the horses, right then and there because I could set myself up into an emotional state that could create a circumstance that could hurt me, which I have had occur before. So I get an opportunity to see myself through every horse and every client around the country. This is what it really is about; to master myself and to conquer myself.

GT: Do you see yourself teaching this knowledge at some time?

LOUIE: Absolutely because I have a desire like many of us to be a teacher, to be a light to the world, and to share what I have learned with the teachings. I also desire to create a form of healing and understand that’s not out there and to change myself, and to change the understanding of what these horses are saying and why they are here.

Horses are incredibly spiritual because, as I said before, they have one band and they’re analogical most of the time. What they know, where they are, and why they are here, the message a lot of times is, "Look at me, I keep going, I’m hurting, I’m in trouble, I keep going, I keep serving, and maybe you’ll wake up and see that you are hurting me, and maybe you will change your thoughts. Maybe you will change what you do with yourself because I’m here serving you, helping you, and I don’t like this either." I’m being the voice of the horse, but the horse is really displaying back to the owner their emotional body, which is the mirror reality just as we have been taught at RSE. Whether it’s another person or another horse, it makes no difference.

GT: When I was observing you the other day treating the horses, I noticed that you also did hands-on healing.

LOUIE: I have to tell you right off that my work is a blessing because I am allowed to be in the world experiencing the teachings that I am learning at RSE daily. As you observed, I do incorporate a hands-on healing process, and I do this initially as I start with the horse and then at the end. The results are very obvious by observing the horse. What I do is such an incredible opportunity for me because there’s nobody out there doing this at this point. It’s just me and my God and what I am learning. And I am saying, show me more, teach me more, let’s go further, let’s evolve. I don’t ever accept what I see. I don’t accept the limitation that people or horses tell me. I know already where I can go and I know because I see through the dream. I see through all the problems. I see through their emotions, I literally sculpture life flesh, that’s what it comes down to.

GT: Do you have any miracle healings that you could tell us about?

LOUIE: Well, we could talk for days about the miracles. But lets’ just take the case you saw the other day. You saw a horse that was distressed, very stiff, touch was painful, no appetite, falling on the ground, body was malshaped, low back, pelvis in trouble, neck in a different position than it should be, and it couldn’t walk. By the time we went through the process, you saw a horse that could walk, had freedom, had an appetite, was eating freely, running around. That is a miracle.

Now the bigger ones, if you wish, are ones that have come to me that were absolutely unmanageable. As an example, I have had many of these horses and they are so angry, they want to bite you, they want to kick at you, and they have no tolerance for humanity anymore. By the time I get done, they have a peace in their eye, they have a calmness, they change their gait, you can see throughout their body that their attitude begins to emanate a quietness or a resolution of their troubles to some level. They begin to be friendly. There are a lot of those cases.

I’ve had a lot of crippled horses that had joint disease that couldn’t be overcome through medicine or surgery. They were almost like coming in a wheelchair sometimes or with crutches. [laughter] And they walk away without a wheelchair or crutches. They were crippled to where they couldn’t walk – they’re three-legged, they’re very sore – and by the time I got done, one session, they were walking sound. Lameness in horses where they couldn’t bear any weight on their feet or legs, horses again who come to me with chronic bowel problems with constipation and other problems, and by the time I get done, the horse begins to pass manure and begins to have a bowel function because of the change in the nervous system.

The same with breathing problems, or thyroid problems, or reproduction. I’ve had mare that came to me with other spine body problems and they had trouble with their reproductive cycles (heats) because of disturbance to the hormone and nervous system. By the time I get done with them in a session or two they begin to have regular heats.

So all levels of mind and body are effected, but miracles, and I say this humbly, are daily. Like the first horse that I had that had a stifle problem and went sound in three treatments, and they hadn’t been able to solve that problem in two years.

Here’s a good story.
I went to Austria and I went into this one doctor’s clinic and I was explaining my work to them. These doctors didn’t know me from anybody and I said that I would like to show them my work, so I asked them if they had a horse that they would let me work on. Well they had this horse – the owner was there – and they said that they had worked on this horse for two years to try to get it sound. It had stifle problems but it had other problems as well. They had injected the stifle, they x-rayed the stifle, they explored the stifle surgically, they explored other parts of the body, they had it on medication, but the horse was still off. It would move and would hurt. So I said, let’s go for it.

So here I am in Austria and I have got these doctors around me and I go to work on this horse. I probably spent a good two to two and a half-hours and by the time I got done, the horse had a different expression and walked differently. So I said, let’s trot the horse. I don’t usually trot them right after the process because they need time just to know where their legs are and get calm and realize that they are okay. But they trotted the horse for a distance and the horse went sound. "Sound" meaning that the horse began to move with equal weight on all legs, could trot evenly with no lameness or disturbance in its gait or biomechanical movement. The doctors and the owner were pretty stunned although they didn’t really know what to say. It was incredible. That’s on of those miracles again, in a foreign country. I have had a number of those occur when I was in France as well where we get some of the more extreme cases.

It still amazes me how much horses hurt, how much they’re suffering, and they still keep going. Recently, I was dealing at an Olympic level with horses that came from England. These are very expensive horses: expensive meaning a couple of hundred thousand to a half million dollars. They are qualified horses and what we call Four Star horses, which are very qualified to meet the greatest disciplines of that particular event that they are trained for. But I saw immediately on transportation that these horses were literally trashed – spine hurt, couldn’t touch them, they fall on the ground – and these are horses performing at the highest level possible. So what I’m saying again is that those horses are turned around in one treatment, two treatments, whatever.

I get significant change on the first session, but some horses do take a long time and a long time could be six months to a year or it could be two years, because it is so progressive. If you understand that the brain, the neuronet, the memory, the emotional body is where layers and layers occur. They compartmentalize just like we do. They have slices in the brain as we do, as we have learned from Ramtha. They stuffed in Pandora’s Box their fears and traumas of childhood because they have been rushed and pushed through life, just like sometimes we do with ourselves or our children. So they have all these experiences with no wisdom and I allow the wisdom to come out.

GT: And you created your business through your reputation and through referrals?

LOUIE: Yes, it’s been strictly through referrals, but I have had some small articles written here and there, nothing big. I had one article that was written about me by a writer from New York that was done really well, but the leading horse magazine said it was too controversial.

GT: Well that’s a good sign. (Laughing)

LOUIE: Yes, so I let that be. But I have been in four countries in Europe, repeatedly in France, and people observe my work and then they know somebody that knows somebody. That’s why I’ve been all over ten States in the US and dealing with all breeds, some of the most highly trained horses in the business, very expensive, and the lowest level too. I also get to lecture every chance I get here and there, because I tell this information every day to educate. It’s like being at an event at RSE where Ramtha gets us to talk to who is sitting next to us and to explain what we have just learned from what he has just taught us and then put it into our own words. Well, I do this every day all day long about my understanding of what I have learned.

What’s beautiful is that because of my work, it has allowed me to understand the emotional body and to experience it and start to talk it and be in the position to express the knowledge and supposedly know what the hell I am saying, then I become very aware about what I know.

So in my work and in the midst of talking – especially to an owner – I may not quite have the total outcome in my head to begin with, but it will congeal as we talk into an understanding for the owner and for myself. So it’s constantly making me understand the teachings at a greater level every time I express and create a new neuronet as Ramtha has explained to us, and to speak, of course, truth. Truth is a big thing in my work, because as you know for any of us, truth is key to set us free. Ramtha is getting us home with truth, by us always speaking the truth, by having nothing that is hidden in us, and in the midst of not having anything hidden and speaking freely, that then frees us and then nothing has any charge on it and we become something other than what we were.

Same with horses as with people, this becomes quite a challenge and obviously it is humbling. It’s not easy to "walk the talk" because no matter what, I know what I can do, I know the teachings to the level that I know them, I know the mastery of my work to the level I know it, I know emotional body, I know the horse, I know the language, but I have so many skepticisms when I’m going against the grain and I’m out of the box. I’m challenging traditional medicine, I’m challenging traditional thought, I’m challenging the psychologists, I’m challenging the behaviorists, I’m challenging the surgeons, I’m challenging horse people who are supposedly so knowledgeable, and it’s incredible because I must speak truth whether that client walks away, whether I’m embarrassed, whether they think I’m a fool, or they laugh. And, I don’t care. It is truth.

I still feel that I’m a voice for the horse as well as a voice for my God, or the horse’s God if you wish to see it that way. No one is usually speaking up for the horse. Everybody wants the pie for themselves and that’s just the way humanity lives. They say, what’s in it for me? To heck with animals or whatever else and to heck with people. It’s just, what do I want for myself? I tell people straight away whether they are ready to hear it or not about the severity of their horse’s condition, what it takes to get there, what perhaps they have done, and ask if they are ready to get the horse well, because most people in a lot of ways don’t want their horse well; they want their horse quickly fixed to get to their next fulfillment, and that’s why they want medicine and surgery and that’s how the neuronet has been created in medicine. It’s not bad stuff, its not good stuff; it’s just limited and ignorant.

So then the walk has become very huge. I did amazing work in Austria and France, but they didn’t call me back. Not because I didn’t create miracles, but because they think, okay, my horse is well, I’m done, or I don’t want to spend the money. I walk that walk all the time because nobody has been able to express this knowledge even in the human side fully.

What I have learned and what I have the privilege to do in my work, it’s not because of me; it’s because of Ramtha, the teachings, and my God that I have learned and been willing to know truth about myself and willing to experience the knowledge and taken that to the world and to change myself, change the horses, and hopefully change the people.

GT: I also heard that you are treating some horses that are going to the Olympics.

LOUIE: Yes, I am working in Kentucky with the horses of two people who were competing to be qualified for the Olympics. They must qualify even though they are what is called "Long Listed," but what happened was, they had an unfortunate fall during one significant event in Kentucky which would have qualified them for the Olympics, so that would put them out of these Olympics at this time. It was awesome though. These horses that they took to those qualifying events phenomenally had health and recovery and they didn’t have any of the problems they had been suffering beforehand. So here I am in upper level, which is exciting. But it’s not about the Olympics, even though it is; it’s really about knowledge on another level. This lady from Kentucky is still going to qualify for the Olympics, She sees the changes. A lot of people at that level don’t want alternative work. They don’t believe in it. But she sees the changes and she’s a billboard for the work that I do.

GT: Is there anything you would like to add?

LOUIE: It’s just that we must know that the reality is us, that the animal is us, that the horse, the dog, the cat, is us, that other humans are us. Our emotions are our past and our emotions are the crippler. I know that as truth because of myself as well as my horses. And, if we don’t change, we die.

GT: So true. Louie, thank you.




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